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SilentPoet says...

Choggie, you keep losing accounts faster than I can keep up.
By the time I decipher your posts, your account is cooked.

Kinda sad.

If you stay gone, I will miss you.
And if you don't, I suppose I will be scratching my head more often.

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Deano (Member Profile)

SilentPoet says...

May I have an invite to the Bravo colllective? I tend to like the sounds of a classical instrument, but not neccesarily classical music. However, I still feel that those in the Bravo collective may enjoy what I can contribute. Comment me back and tell me what you think.

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Penn & Teller - The Bible Myth

SilentPoet says...

Downvote for instead of saying "Maybe this book should not be taken literally page to page, cover to cover." they say basically say "All of this book="bullshit."

A good bit of the Bible is supported by history. Many of the Bible's battles are known to have happened. The Bible even goes so far to give details of certain battles. It is even sometimes used as a historical source.

Now, lets go through all those verses that Penn and Teller starting pulling out around 8:30.

Exd 21:7 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.


God permitted slavery to exist in both Old and New Testament times. But this does not mean that slavery was a God-ordained system. Slavery was an invention of fallen man, not of God. Nevertheless, God allowed it to exist the way He allows other things to exist that He does not approve of: murder, lying, rape, theft, etc.
God also works within the system of fallen man and makes allowances for the freedom and failures of mankind within that system. We see this, for example, in Jesus saying that God allowed divorce because of the hardness of peoples' hearts (Matt. 19:8). The fact is, people are sinners and do things contrary to the will of God. But, even though people have murdered, lied, raped, and stolen, God has still used people who've committed these sins to accomplish His divine will. Moses murdered an Egyptian but was used by God to deliver Israel. David committed adultery but was promised to have the Messiah descend from his seed. This is proof that though God desires that people not do much of what they do, He permits them their freedom, yet uses the system and the people according to His divine will.
In the case of a slave being property, that is simply the way things were done back then. As I said, God worked within the fallen system of man and put limits and guidelines concerning the treatment of slaves.

Exd 35:2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.

While the New Testament assures us that the 10 commandments were not drafted simply for "another age.", Romans 13:1-10 assures us that the Church has adopted them for our time as well. However, since the whole Old Covenant (the Mosaic Law, as specified in 2 Cor 3:7-14) has been set aside (Hebrews 7:18; 8:13; 10:9), then the Church can pick the religious and moral practices from the Old Testament as she sees fit to use in the New Testament. Therefore, she can decide to use the 10 commandments but reject the civil and ceremonial laws that were tied to the theocracy of Israel (e.g., eating shellfish).

1Cr 11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

One should note that national customs furnish an explanation here. 1 Cor was addressed to a Greek audience, where long hair on men often indicated effeminacy and indulgences in unnatural vices.

This is where I ran into a problem. They say that verses 19-24 say that a man shouldn't go near a woman when she is on her period...
I am going to post verses 19-24 and you can tell me where you see that, because I don't see it. Perhaps that was just a mess up on Penn and Tellers part.

1Cr 11:19For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

1Cr 11:20 When ye come together therefore into one place, [this] is not to eat the Lord's supper.

1Cr 11:21 For in eating every one taketh before [other] his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken.

1Cr 11:22 What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise [you] not.

1Cr 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the [same] night in which he was betrayed took bread:

1Cr 11:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake [it], and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Will somebody let me know when they figure out what verse they meant?

This video dissapointed me. I usually like their show and often agree with them on many things. This would be an exception.

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