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Been awhile since Russia has attacked anyone, this could get quite interesting, and not in a good way.
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"One hundred and fifty Russian tanks, armoured personnel carriers and other vehicles have entered South Ossetia," President Saakashvili of Georgia told reporters in Tbilisi. "This is a clear intrusion on another country’s territory. We have Russian tanks on our territory, jets on our territory in broad daylight."
WTF. I know Georgia is a much closer ally to the US and the west than Russia, but still. I'm confused. We must not be getting enough history to understand this. Who the F owns this land? So far, it looks like Georgia is at fault and should have let the sleeping dog lie.
Fast Facts:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,400046,00.html
1991-92 S Ossetia fights war to break away from newly independent Georgia; Russia enforces truce
2004 Mikhail Saakashvili elected Georgian president, promising to recover lost territories
2006 S Ossetians vote for independence in unofficial referendum
April 2008 Russia steps up ties with Abkhazia and South Ossetia
July 2008 Russia admits flying jets over S Ossetia; Russia and Georgia accuse each other of military build-up
7 August 2008 After escalating Georgian-Ossetian clashes, sides agree to ceasefire
8 August 2008 Heavy fighting erupts overnight, Georgian forces close in on Tskhinvali
Russia is using this to attack Georgia, using the term liberation force as a way to encroach on lost territories. Russia contends that it's a peacekeeping force, and will respect Georgia's sovereignty while moving attack planes and tanks in. I feared something like this when watching their May 9th military parades, the largest held in the longest time.
Adolf Hitler used the same tactic in the opening stages of World War 2, by claiming that there were Germans living in Czechoslovakia.
I can't help but think that unilateralism intervention under taken by the US has given Russia the impetus to do the same within it's own borders to reclaim pre-independence sectors.
Watching a news broadcast on Euronews, something struck me, this isn't simply an operation to secure western influienced lands by Russian forces. It represents a political and strategic reclamation of Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline and the route of the future Trans-Caspian Oil pipeline.
Post collapse of the Soviet union the only oil routes for central Asian and Caspian states lead directly into Russia, giving the Russians a large degree of political and strategic influence over the energy flow into Europe.
There have been countless proposals to circumvent it, the BTC pipeline and the Trans-Caspian are routes that cross Georgia and through Turkey. Other routes use Afghanistan such as the Trans-Afghanistan pipeline.
Seemingly this is a false flag operation to dominate the last really untapped reserves of oil and natural gas found in Central Asia.
USA, Iraq
Russia, Georgia
China, Tibet
Agression and oppression by the superpowers around the world.
http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/europe-and-central-asia/eastern-europe/russia
http://www.amnesty.org
In return, America will get Iran.
It's all over oil and natural resources, United Nations do nothing.
- http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/10/world/europe/10diplo.html?em
I was like, "whoa, choice use of language there, buddy..."
but then i realised that not since the 1700's has America really sought "ethical leverage".... and she lost the last shred of it in Vietnam. By the time of the invasion of Iraq, i really can't say she had any left to lose.
And I would really like to know if QM is STILL ignoring the fact that this shit is all going down on top of huge reserves of natural resources, and the pipelines that emanate from them.
Living, as i do, very near a big gas pipeline through Belarussia which provides me (and half of europe) with gas for my hot shower... I get nervous when i see the overlay of oil/gas and war/liberation.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=408_1218372171
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1043185/The-Pipeline-War-Russian-bear-goes-Wests-jugular.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1539064.ece
Cracking an egg with a sledge hammer, the Russian way:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1540544.ece
Adding battle at sea:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/war-30000-homeless-as-a-chaotic-conflict-intensifies-889751.html
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080810/D92FMO4O0.html
I wish they would attack Alabama instead...
Have they sacked Atlanta yet?
read an article today suggesting the aggressive move by Georgia was orchestrated by the US as a strategic diversion to keep Russia busy during a naval blockade of Iran. shrug
Sounds like a bunch of conspiracy theory crap to me. Propaganda.
Georgia wants to become part of NATO, as does Ukraine so the russians say Ukraine pushed for georgia to go to south what ever its called.
In short, the main reason russia attacked? DONT WANT NATO NEAR US!
Quoted form the Washington Post August 10, page A 15 "War between Georgia and Russia Intensifies" front page story: "Georgia's aspiration to join NATO...is driven by its attmept to drag other nations and peoples into its bloody adventures."
What we clearly have here is a Russian Reversal... right back to the soviet days! In modern Russia, soviet reverses you!
PS: I like to get all sides of the story, and as I read it... all of the comments above are correct in their ways.
It was reported on the BBC that Russia bombed the pipeline but 'missed', which sounds really dodgy to me. There's a lot more to this than any of us know.
If Israel now makes a move against Iran then we're really in trouble. American warships are now amassing in the Gulf whilst this is plastered all over the news.
Man how tedious it is to watch humanity make the same stupid mistake again and again.
This is a world were I can program an application that does cool stuff we can make videogames, and underwear with a convenient hole in the front but we cant ween ourselves off the oil.
If they change the fuel system, not gonna hurt me any. If the dollar fails, we just live through it like every thing else that's happened.
Pull back your chair and look at your computer table. See how many things are made from, made with, made through, the usage of oil. Now look around your house.
You will realize why big business is so afraid of weening off oil.